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if we want to grow build our capability accomplish  what we're going for it seems obvious to say that   we're going to need to know things - but then when  you think about it the most knowledgeable people   aren't always those who seem to be thriving and  in our own lives if we're really honest getting   new knowledge doesn't always unlock us when we're  stuck so is it that knowing doesn't matter? or is  
there something we don't know about knowing?  and if we do want to grow and learn how do we   go about getting the kind of knowledge that will  really help us? my name's Rich Watkins from Let's   Go and i'm interested in how we accomplish things  with others in complex environments collaboration   and how we develop our own mastery and share it  with the world leadership in this video i want to  
shine a light on the work of cognitive scientist  John Vervaeke from the university of Toronto now   his work is incredibly rich with loads of  applications but for my purposes i just want   to explore one fragment of his thinking he says  that we often have too narrow an appreciation of   knowing focusing too much on one or two kinds  of knowing but to live well in a complex world   we need to effectively engage with four kinds  of knowing and perfectly they all begin with a P  
the first kind of knowing he describes is the one  that we usually talk about knowing knowledge and   he calls it propositional knowing because it's  the kind of knowing that exists in books where   there are propositions facts beliefs concepts  rules is how we win an argument persuade someone   of something or describe a theory it's thinking  knowing knowing about things in science philosophy  
history management we are in this business  of knowing what is true and if we build this   kind of knowing we become knowledgeable which is  good for lots of things but it is insufficient   because we also need to know how to do things and  the second P is procedural knowing this kind of   knowing is knowing the procedures that achieve  results and it doesn't get us truth it gets us   power an easy way to see it is the difference  between knowing lots about bikes and knowing  
how to ride a bike you see this procedural  knowing gives us the power to ride around   and we all know people with great theory but can't  turn it into great practice and with procedural   knowing it's getting that embodied sense of how  specific actions reliably get us specific results   we call these skills and building our procedural  knowing building our skills we become experts   okay so imagine a person learns a lot about  hammers and becomes very skillful with using one  
this is useful but is every problem a nail  we might need another kind of knowing that   sees the situation we find ourselves in  and knows what skills are appropriate   John Vervaeke calls this perspectival knowing  it's not about knowing the truth or knowing how to   enact something it's knowing how to perceive the  world how to take it all in from our perspective   and with this we will know how things feel  and we can appreciate then what really matters  
or sense what is needed in the situation it's not  just thinking about our perspective but really   inhabiting it getting a taste for how things  appear to us the result of perspectival knowing is   presence and with presence we also appreciate  the limits of our perspective and the value of   other perspectives we become more aware we see how  things fit together we put things in perspective   we become perceptive and then there's a fourth  kind of knowing that's not about seeing but being  
the p is participatory knowing knowing our place  in the world being in a right relationship with   the arena we're operating in being in a dynamic  connection with other people who have their own   perspectives and being in flow with what's around  us notice how different it feels when you're   out of sorts in a situation versus when you're  really at home or in the groove in a situation   when we know how to participate in an arena we  can see what is relevant and anticipate what is  
next and we can improvise with little or no  self-doubt or hesitation because we aren't   thinking about it we know it and with this kind of  knowing we're not just observing the world we're   impacting it but not in that simple procedural  sense we are dancing with the situation both   influencing and being influenced and here we  can handle complexity and ambiguity and novelty   we can face things with good humor because we're  at home in the arena building our participatory  
knowing we become co-creators with life so there  we have four kinds of knowing knowing about things   propositional knowing knowing how to do things  procedural knowing knowing how to perceive the   world perspectival knowing and knowing how  to relate to the world participatory knowing   these last two p's might sound like very advanced  kinds of knowing may be reserved for great masters  
but in fact they're the foundations kids generally  know how to participate in the world and how to be   present to what they experience before they  know how to do things or think about things   and here's where i see these distinctions as  useful for us you see we all have a lot to learn   and often we know that we need to develop  our leadership our collaboration how we   navigate change build resilience creativity vision  influence but learning isn't just about acquiring  
new knowledge and new skills sometimes we need  new lenses to look through new ways of listening   to the world sometimes we need new frames of  mind that help us participate in the world   differently and this kind of learning isn't about  striving for hidden knowledge or hidden processes   that will get us the things we want it's more  like a settling in can we settle in to seeing   and sensing the world more deeply being more  present and perceiving what is really going on  
listening to the perspectives of others without  worrying whether we have everything right   can we settle in to a more comfortable  participation in the arenas we're operating in   becoming aware of the complexity and ambiguity  but not trying to plot the perfect path through it   that doesn't exist instead making friends with the  situation and if we can perceive this distinction  
maybe we can participate in our learning  and our growth in a more useful grounded way thanks for watching the video i'm still  starting out with this whole video stuff so   if it's helpful please comment please subscribe  to the channel share the videos look around   and see what else there is and let me know if  you've got any questions or comments on anything
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